Instantly withdraw bitcoins to PayPal account without delay

Europeans : If we convince @neteller (island of man) to accept BTC, then we could get cash from BTC in less than 10 minutes, leaving banks out of the game.

Some months ago I tried to see how fast I could get cash from BTC. I tried a tricky strategy that now doesn't work anymore. I used neteller which is hosted in Island of Man, recently prised for its BTC friendly environment for businesses, with some nice feature for privacy and taxes.
here is how :
If we simply get @neteller to accept BTC as a form of money in, that would make the trick.
Or, are any other ways to achieve the same result, leaving banks out of the game?
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Beta version launched

Beta version launched submitted by Manfred_Karrer to Bitcoin [link] [comments]

Buying Bitcoin in the UK

Is it at all possible to buy bitcoin for the price MTGox is showing?
I've looked around and I can't see anyone selling for less than around 3xMTGox price. Am I missing something or is that just the way it is?
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Introducing Litecoin as base currency - Huge Bisq/Bitsquare update - Check out v0.5.1

This release comes with tons of changes and improvements.
Please download at: https://github.com/bitsquare/bitsquare/releases/tag/v0.5.1
Most relevant changes are:
Please see the full release notes below.
As that release has very profound changes it is NOT backward compatible to the earlier versions. It uses a new network which is separated from the current trade network. So your offers from the current application will not be visible for users who are using the new version.
If you want to migrate to the new version you need to close your offers and withdraw your funds to the new application. You can run both applications in parallel as they are using a different data directory. You cannot move over the wallet or application data because the wallet format has changed (BIP44) and we use a different data structure for the data base files. So you need to transfer the Bitcoin with a BTC transaction and set up your payment account(s) manually.
Please double check with cmd+e in the old application if no funds are left over (some bugs might have caused that the balance displayed in the UI is not correct).
Please use small amounts when starting trading in the new application as with so many changes there are some risks for bugs (though it is thoroughly tested).
Release notes:
submitted by heavyuser1337 to litecoin [link] [comments]

Huge Bisq/Bitsquare update - Check out v0.5.1

This release comes with tons of changes and improvements.
Please download at: https://github.com/bitsquare/bitsquare/releases/tag/v0.5.1
Most relevant changes are:
Please see the full release notes below.
As that release has very profound changes it is NOT backward compatible to the earlier versions. It uses a new network which is separated from the current trade network. So your offers from the current application will not be visible for users who are using the new version.
If you want to migrate to the new version you need to close your offers and withdraw your funds to the new application. You can run both applications in parallel as they are using a different data directory. You cannot move over the wallet or application data because the wallet format has changed (BIP44) and we use a different data structure for the data base files. So you need to transfer the Bitcoin with a BTC transaction and set up your payment account(s) manually.
Please double check with cmd+e in the old application if no funds are left over (some bugs might have caused that the balance displayed in the UI is not correct).
Please use small amounts when starting trading in the new application as with so many changes there are some risks for bugs (though it is thoroughly tested).
Release notes:
submitted by heavyuser1337 to BitcoinMarkets [link] [comments]

Huge Bisq/Bitsquare update - Check out v0.5.1

This release comes with tons of changes and improvements.
Please download at: https://github.com/bitsquare/bitsquare/releases/tag/v0.5.1
Most relevant changes are:
Please see the full release notes below.
As that release has very profound changes it is NOT backward compatible to the earlier versions. It uses a new network which is separated from the current trade network. So your offers from the current application will not be visible for users who are using the new version.
If you want to migrate to the new version you need to close your offers and withdraw your funds to the new application. You can run both applications in parallel as they are using a different data directory. You cannot move over the wallet or application data because the wallet format has changed (BIP44) and we use a different data structure for the data base files. So you need to transfer the Bitcoin with a BTC transaction and set up your payment account(s) manually.
Please double check with cmd+e in the old application if no funds are left over (some bugs might have caused that the balance displayed in the UI is not correct).
Please use small amounts when starting trading in the new application as with so many changes there are some risks for bugs (though it is thoroughly tested).
Release notes:
submitted by heavyuser1337 to btc [link] [comments]

Introducing DOGE as base currency - Huge Bisq/Bitsquare update - Check out v0.5.1

This release comes with tons of changes and improvements.
Please download at: https://github.com/bitsquare/bitsquare/releases/tag/v0.5.1
Most relevant changes are:
Please see the full release notes below.
As that release has very profound changes it is NOT backward compatible to the earlier versions. It uses a new network which is separated from the current trade network. So your offers from the current application will not be visible for users who are using the new version.
If you want to migrate to the new version you need to close your offers and withdraw your funds to the new application. You can run both applications in parallel as they are using a different data directory. You cannot move over the wallet or application data because the wallet format has changed (BIP44) and we use a different data structure for the data base files. So you need to transfer the Bitcoin with a BTC transaction and set up your payment account(s) manually.
Please double check with cmd+e in the old application if no funds are left over (some bugs might have caused that the balance displayed in the UI is not correct).
Please use small amounts when starting trading in the new application as with so many changes there are some risks for bugs (though it is thoroughly tested).
Release notes:
submitted by heavyuser1337 to dogecoin [link] [comments]

How to buy these cheap coins right now

Since we've all been goxxed now is the time to buy those $50-60 coins floating around and profit from everybody else's misery. Or you could wait for Gox to come back online and crash down the price even further but good luck trying to do any trading there to buy coins, the trading engine is already broken I don't expect the new one to work flawlessly due to epic 3yr history of GOXXING
BTC-E.com
To pay into this exchange, you need a BTC-E code, PM or Okpay. Take pics of your ID and utility bill and pay the $10 to Okpay for 'quick verification'. You can pay bitcoins directly into your Okpay account for initial funding or wait and see how long it takes for reg verification.
Now either wire money, or instant money transfer (MoneyPolo, Contact-sys, Unistream) to fund your account or find an Okpay exchanger somewhere. Or Ukash/CashU. Just because contact-sys is Russian doesn't mean there aren't sending points in every country in the world.
BTC-E codes you buy on #bitcoin-otc from verified gpg authenticated traders with good ratings, or on bitcointalk.org forums in the currency exchange forums.
Perfect Money is a shady HYIP digital currency run by Russians much like Liberty Reserve. You sign up for free, and load your account with wires (if verified) or you use an exchanger. This is what talkgold.com is for to find legit exchangers. I use wm-center.com to wire WU/Moneygram and get PM. Click on 'Interkassa' payment method in BTC-E and select Perfect Money. Instant load.
You can also obviously dump Litecoins you bought on Vircurex to fund the account, or a gagillion PPcoins
Bitfloor.com
Fastest way to deposit is through CapitalOne P2P or cash deposit https://bitfloor.com/docs/#funding-deposit
Be aware Bitfloor is insolvent due to owing 25k bitcoins that were stolen last year but they have a repayment schedule that may or may not bankrupt them. Use at own risk but most ppl trade there everyday with no problems.
Bitstamp.net
Great exchange in Slovakia? I think. You have to pay with Euro SEPA wire, then for some stupid reason they convert the money to USD. You can pay in here using transferwise.com if you're from UK, or XEtrade and other Forex online money transfer companies. Google 'free money transfer fx' and review your options. Most don't charge you anything if over a certain amount of money. They take your internet billing or other local payment, convert to EUR and send SEPA for you if you request it. If they don't then check with Bitstamp what a SWIFT wire costs (probably nothing, I think they use Latvian banks that charge no receiving fees). If you want a bank account in Latvia then sign up here: http://www.rietumu.com/ if you have a local corporation or business where you live you can, maybe a personal account too. You can always incorporate a dirt cheap Delaware LLC or Oregon LLC from anywhere in the world and use it to open up worldwide bank accounts.
Bitcoin-24.com
Takes direct wires, all sorts of other methods: https://bitcoin-24.com/fees You can also use Liqpay if you have a USD or EUR card. Sign up to liqpay.com, then they block a small verification amount you have to sign into internet banking (for the card) to check. It's usually $1.something or less. After that you are verified to load $1-100 or so, but I'd just try $50 at first. Any more than that and Liqpay will seize the funds and ask for your bank to authorize a fax they send which no bank will do because of privacy reasons, so pointless to load anymore money. Liqpay may also call you to verify card details this is normal. Liqpay is meant for Russians and CIS countries to use like Ukraine so due to epic fraud of credit cards don't expect to load too much this way unless you find a Liqpay exchanger, but what's the point when you can just wire money to bitcoin-24 anyways.
Vircurex.com
Good exchange, had some problems due to DDoS but so did all exchanges. They only accept BTC, altcoins and VouchX for payment. You buy Vouchx here: https://www.aurumxchange.com/ or from somebody on Bitcointalk, or IRC (with rep). You can buy a bunch of litecoins anywhere to fund this exchange such as the bitcointalk forums or IRC. Warning: the so-called official twitter account is fake, don't use it.
Cavirtex.com
Can only fund if in Canada, they accept cash deposit and internet billing. Price has been steady at ~$90 all day though no panic selling.
LibertyBit.com
https://www.libertybit.com/funding various easy methods, new exchange in Canada that takes intl wires and shockingly Interac deposits (easily frauded).
Bitcoin China
https://btcchina.com/ fast growing exchange, you pay in with Alipay or Tenpay both Chinese methods that westerners can't use or figure out due to no translation. You can probably use Alipay if you find and exchanger to load it, they do exist. **Edit they now support Liberty Reserve deposit and withdrawal
Check english forums to see if anybody exchanging Alipay or taking wires.
CampBX.com
Accepts money orders, and CapitalOne P2P payments. Also accepts Dwolla but you need to be verified.
Bitcoin-central.net
Just had a major outage due to instawallet hack, appears to be back online. You get your own quasi-bank account when you verify here much like how ecardone.com (liberty reserve) does banking so can transfer to other users legally with vouchers. You can buy a voucher p2p on Bitcointalk forums or IRC or send a bankwire.
VirWoX.com
You can pay with Paypal to get Second Life "Linden Dollars" then convert to BTC, or at least you used to be able to. I have no idea if this is still the case I've never used them.
Or course there's all the fixed price exchangers
https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Trade and https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=53.0 for everything from Moneypak to Skrill. You can also risk buying coins on Silk Road with moneypak
==============R U L E S ================================
Enjoy buying all the way down the crash once Gox comes back online and the great sell off begins! Hold them for a year and they'll be worth 10x as much just like the 2011 crash. Bonus points if you speculate on Litecoin, rumor has it Gox will be trading them when they come back online but again, this is MtGox we are talking about so the site could implode on the zerg rush of people trying to get into their accounts or trading engine could sell all your coins for $0.0001 again like they did in 2011.
Great successez!
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Is it really cheaper to buy bitcoin on btc-e? Here are some calculations

So you want to deposit some fiat into btc-e?
  1. Thinking to bankwire - be prepared for 15+ wait time, fees and KYC. Contrary to popular belief, you can't move fiat in without being KYC'd to btc-e and partner banks. The cost (for USD): 0.5%, but min $20.
2.The cheapest instant method would be e-wallets. The cheapest options are MoneyPolo and OkPay (1% fee). But to get your precious fiat you will incur 2.1 4.5%+~$1 fee for Debit card to MoneyPolo deposit. Or 0.5% +$20 min. fee for bank wire. 2.2 0.5% receiving fee + whatever fee you'll pay for depositing your usd from your bank/card.
Thus we have at least 4% deposit fees to get into btc-e alone. And remember, you WON'T be able to a move anything before getting slapped by KYC & AML from Okpay and MoneyPolo. Still believe that btc-e is a money-laundering heaven? :)
But let's abstract ourselves from fiat-to-ewallet shenanigans and attempt to do what every arbitrage wannabe would want to do: exploit the juice price difference.
Huobi has an option of okpay usd withdrawal. It costs 0.5%. To receive the money to your wallet it will cost 0.5%. That's 1% already. To deposit okpay to btc-e you incur another 1%. That's 2%. Now you want to buy those cheap btc. And you get 0.25% fee for the order, because it's a market order for you need btc fast. Thus 2.25%. For the sake of experiment, let's disregard the miner fees needed to send bitcoin back to huobi. To sell your 1 btc you have to pay another 0.2%. Thus all full circle will consume at least 2.45% in fees. At this moment the highest btc-e ask is at $985, huobi bid at $1013. That is 2.84% difference. Subtract 2.45% and get ~0.4% of potential profit, provided that the market does not move against you, while you move money between exchanges.
For the "ex Soviet mob" believers out there: due to socio-economical reasons, most transactions in the countries are done in cash. Subsequently, there's a class of all sorts of people, who engage into forex exchange manually, and now in bitcoin. Many of those use btc-e as a vault and a reference point. But we too are slapped with fees that vary according to the spread installed by those exchangers.
It might seem that btc-e is a cheap place, while in fact it isn't. And as in many poor countries, sometimes it is even more expensive than your average western bitcoin exchange.
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about mercatox exchange part-3

Mercatox fees and charges Mercatox charges a 0.25% fee on all trades placed through the platform. While there are no deposit fees, withdrawal fees apply and vary depending on the currency you wish to withdraw. Some sample withdrawal fees are shown in the table below, but you can visit the Mercatox website for a full list of charges for all currencies.
Currency Withdrawal fee Bitcoin (BTC) 0.0001 – 0.005 Ethereum (ETH) 0.002 Dogecoin (DOGE) 2 Litecoin (LTC) 0.002 DASH (DASH) 0.001 Payeer (in USD) 1.5 Perfect Money (in USD) 0.95 Perfect Money (in EUR) 0 OKPAY (in USD) 0 QIWI (in RUB) 1
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Buy and Sell Gift Cards, Vouchers, Coupones Online!

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Huge Bisq/Bitsquare update - Check out v0.5.1

This release comes with tons of changes and improvements. Please download at: https://github.com/bitsquare/bitsquare/releases/tag/v0.5.1
Most relevant changes are:
Please see the full release notes below.
As that release has very profound changes it is NOT backward compatible to the earlier versions. It uses a new network which is separated from the current trade network. So your offers from the current application will not be visible for users who are using the new version. If you want to migrate to the new version you need to close your offers and withdraw your funds to the new application. You can run both applications in parallel as they are using a different data directory. You cannot move over the wallet or application data because the wallet format has changed (BIP44) and we use a different data structure for the data base files. So you need to transfer the Bitcoin with a BTC transaction and set up your payment account(s) manually.
Please double check with cmd+e in the old application if no funds are left over (some bugs might have caused that the balance displayed in the UI is not correct).
Please use small amounts when starting trading in the new application as with so many changes there are some risks for bugs (though it is thoroughly tested).
Release notes:
submitted by heavyuser1337 to Bitcoin [link] [comments]

Huge Bisq/Bitsquare update - Check out v0.5.1

This release comes with tons of changes and improvements. Please download at: https://github.com/bitsquare/bitsquare/releases/tag/v0.5.1
Most relevant changes are:
Please see the full release notes below.
As that release has very profound changes it is NOT backward compatible to the earlier versions. It uses a new network which is separated from the current trade network. So your offers from the current application will not be visible for users who are using the new version. If you want to migrate to the new version you need to close your offers and withdraw your funds to the new application. You can run both applications in parallel as they are using a different data directory. You cannot move over the wallet or application data because the wallet format has changed (BIP44) and we use a different data structure for the data base files. So you need to transfer the Bitcoin with a BTC transaction and set up your payment account(s) manually.
Please double check with cmd+e in the old application if no funds are left over (some bugs might have caused that the balance displayed in the UI is not correct).
Please use small amounts when starting trading in the new application as with so many changes there are some risks for bugs (though it is thoroughly tested).
Release notes:
submitted by heavyuser1337 to Bitcoin [link] [comments]

Best way to withdraw from Btc-e to my bank ?

Hello, I live in switzerland i ask you how to withdraw my money on BTC-e.
I have 80k USD in bitcoin and i am going to sell them. What is the best method on BTC-e : -Wire transfer ? Or the other : OKpay, moneypolo, perfect money...
Thanks.
submitted by tchakd to Bitcoin [link] [comments]

about mercatox exchange

Currency Minimum deposit Minimum withdrawal Bitcoin (BTC) 0.0001 0.001 Ethereum (ETH) 0.001 0.005 Dogecoin (DOGE) 100 1,000 Litecoin (LTC) 0.005 0.005 DASH (DASH) 0.002 0.005 Payeer (in USD) 1 2 Perfect Money (in USD) 0.01 0.1 Perfect Money (in EUR) 0.01 0.1 OKPAY (in USD) 0.01 0.1 QIWI (in RUB) 50 100 For a full list of transfer limits, visit the Mercatox website.
Please note that limits also apply to instant withdrawals as follows:
For unverified users: 0.5 BTC or equivalent per 24 hours For verified users: 5 BTC or equivalent per 24 hours
submitted by sohelrana1122 to mercatox [link] [comments]

Did anybody else just see this posted? (And quickly deleted) Ziggap founder states all other Bitcoin companies are part of organized crime. Screenshot: http://imgur.com/5pXE979

Hello /bitcoin,
The reason ZIGGAP is not currently up is because my competition has been selectively scamming me. You see the following organizations are all ran by the same group of organized crime and money launderers:
OKPay
BitInstant
Coinbase
Coinabul
BTC-E
MtGox
Dwolla (Was created just to ACH money through bitinstant before coinbase came about)
Bitfloor
Bitme
Localbitcoins
Coinapult
Coinlab
Bitstamp
Virwox
ZipZap (No I didn't know before I signed up with them)
TrustCash (Owned and operated by Arthur Britto, even though he has a standin listed as the company director. Arthur is the one who answers the phones with a different name, FYI)
BTCJam
And probably more.
I don't run that way. I have zero interest in laundering money. My competition however doesn't like that I wont play ball with them, and as a result they have been scamming me out of funding everywhere I go. I was told that if I didn't either 1) Give half my company to a member of this organization or 2) Close my doors that I was going to get sued or have funds taken from me.
I've been ramping back up to relaunch ZIGGAP and have been attempting to purchase Bitcoin for sale and have had it go wrong in mysterious ways every time I try. When I go to MtGox to buy their website goes down, when I try to create a company account the sign up page doesn't work. Low and behold when I use a different name it works fine. When I wire funds to BTC-E they hold the wire and ask for the same documentation over and over. I tried to withdrawal money from BTC-E and the withdrawal is just stuck on "pending" and the money is gone. When I tried to pay the loan on BTC-Jam the loan says it's not paid but the Bitcoin is gone. Celso is not responding. When I buy, there are massive selloffs.
You get the idea.
The simple process of trying to buy Bitcoin has resulted in over $20,000 of ZIGGAP's money being held in multiple locations with zero recourse for me since these locations are overseas. I've tried recalling wires just to have them denied. So I guess that's it. ZIGGAP is not coming back, not because I don't want to, but because I'm being shut out of Bitcoin and being scammed from over and over.
I'm out. Obviously people are going to make me into a scammer and doing everything they can to get the site shut down. I now do not have enough funds to continue operation. Thanks Bitcoin community! It's greatly appreciated. I never realized this was a just organized crime racket or I never would have participated in the first place. I thought this was about the next generation currency. Boy was I fucking wrong. I'm going to have to file bankruptcy now because of these people.
-Ryan
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BTC-E.com safety checklist for noobs

DISABLE JAVA There's java zero day exploits being discovered all the time. One exploit still hasn't been fixed. You should do this permanently with your browser java is an exploit factory. IE you can't completely disable java so don't use it.
INSTALL NOSCRIPT ADDON https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/noscript/ or whatever shit script blockers Chrome/Safari use because Chrome is still lacking the required infrastructure for selective script disablement and object blocking so noscript isn't available, but inferior clones are. Whitelist only sites you need, like btc-e.com so it doesn't automatically load harmful scripts on untrusted sites.
GET AN ENCRYPTED PASSWORD SAFE http://www.schneier.com/passsafe.html Don't use any solution that 'encrypts in your browser' because it will need java and we disabled java remember?
MAKE NEW GMAIL ACCOUNT JUST FOR TRADING Make a random account name + password that can't be guessed. http://www.passwordgenerator.eu/
Store them in your password safe so you don't forget them. Never reuse that password on any site. ENABLE TWO FACTOR AUTHENTICATION.
Note that 2factor ID sometimes doesn't work if your phone time is off. You get 30 seconds to type in the code, if off by 10 seconds derp run out of time. Set your time manually if the shitty telco time server is off www.timeanddate.com
MAKE BTC-E ACCOUNT Use impossible to guess passwords from password generator + throw in your own random letters. Save in password safe. Do not pick a name anywhere close to being your email username.
ENABLE 2FACTOR ID Click Profile, then click 'Edit'
https://btc-e.com/profile#edit/home - confirm your email.
https://btc-e.com/profile#edit/security - enable "Withdraw only with request on E-Mail"
DO NOT CLICK ANY LINKS IN THE TROLLBOX!!!! No matter how innocent the link looks don't click anything in the chatbox. Hackers are dropping links full of java zeroday, redirectors that look just like btc-e login page and phish for passwords, all sorts of bad. Trollbox is also prone to misinformation being that it is a trollbox. Avoid.
If you chat on there, expect every PM sent to you will be from a hacker trying to mine information or get you to click a link. Assume every link is an exploit attempt. Notice how it displays your name, if you picked same name as your email, they can go to work on both by trying to break into your gmail account. This is another way how people get their coins stolen. Hacker takes chat name and tries it on gmail/hotmail/yahoo. If they get in because you didn't set up 2 factor expect to be robbed of coins.
DO NOT ENABLE API Unless you know what you're doing, do not enable this. Liberty Reserve disabled their API by default because of so many drained accounts.
DISCLAIMER Of course, be aware the exchange is in Russia or possibly Bulgaria and if anything happens the owner could just disappear, but this is highly unlikely. Why would you walk away from a money machine. Remember bitfloor (US) lost all it's customers bitcoins once, CryptoXchange (Australia) stole from users and disappeared, Bitcoinica (China?) stole or lost all the coins, and bitcoin-24 (German) has just lost their bank account and owner MIA. All exchanges carry risk no matter what country they are in.
You can fund btc-e through cash deposit in India, Singapore, Malaysia, Bangladesh, Nepal, Australia with http://www.ecurrencyzone.net/ which are authorized exchange listed on the Okpay.com site. They sell btc-e vouchers and Okpay. So does http://liliontransfer.org/ for wires and other methods.
If you want a really secure platform (you fear your comp is probably already infected with hidden java zeroday botnet) then download any linux live distro and make bootable USB or burn to CD. I recommend Liberty Linux http://dee.su and just use the non private browser (disable java and javascript!), NOT the Tor browser you don't want to trust SSL over Tor and risk a malicious exit node capturing traffic and running sslstrip on it or feeding you a MITM attack with spoofed certs.
If you want to know why watch this, nothing has changed since this talk was given: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7Wl2FW2TcA
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Extracing USD from MtGox

So, now that MtGox's Dwolla account has been shut down (right after I got verified by MtGox and set up a Dwolla account), what is the best way to get USD out of MtGox to a US bank account? The options I see are direct international bank transfer, OKPAY, or buying Bitcoins again, sending them to another exchange, and selling them there, at which point the question becomes what the best way to get USD out of that exchange are.
The bank transfer costs ¥2000 (~$20). It sounds like it may take a week or more to go through (they are a little vague in the MtGox FAQ about this). On top of this, I need to do it in a few batches, since it's more than $1000 that I'm transferring out; so that's $20 per $1000 batch, or about 2% in fees.
I've tried browsing OKPAY's website, and I'm pretty confused, because it seems like there are lots of different options and varying fees. I could apparently do bank transfers out, get a debit card, etc. The MtGox FAQ says that there's a 1% withdrawal fee for withdrawing to OKPAY; and OKPAY says that there's a 1% fee for doing a transfer to a bank account. So does that mean that I'd be paying a net of 2% to get from MtGox into my bank account? Or I could do an OKPAY debit card; by my calculations, that would be 1% + $15 for the card, and a several week wait for delivery; and then I would need to use it for POS transactions, as withdrawing cash from it at an ATM from it has a 2% fee (with a minimum of $3 per withdrawal).
Or I could buy BTC and sell them on another exchange. But the exchange rate on MtGox is higher than the other big USD exchanges (by up to 8%), on top of whatever fees or complications the other exchanges have, so that's a considerably more expensive option.
Anyone have any advice on the best way of getting USD out of MtGox that they have personal experience with? I'm interested a bit more in speed and convenience than the absolute cost, but I also don't want to be bled dry with fees.
I'm also wondering if it's worth setting up a new bank account to receive this, or just use my personal checking account. What do other people do? Setting up and maintaining another account at my bank may be a hassle, though I've been considering it for various online account purposes such as PayPal.
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What should I do with over $4-5 worth in BTC?

Hello everyone, since a few months ago I started gathering BTC from faucets and PTC's based on BTC, and recently I also sold some Latium and Doges(which I got from Freedoge.co.in) at Coin-Swap, and after all that time I have know at the time of writing this $4.60 and I'm waiting for the next Doge payout. I started gathering BTC because I wanted to make my free time more profitable, and also with the idea of purchase a Humble Bundle with BTC. For those who didn't know about it, Humble Bundle is a site where you can get some good games for just $1, but probably what you didn't know is that you can purchase it with BTC, there is a tiny link titled "or buy with Bitcoin!" below the Google Wallet payment button.
But the point is that I'm waiting for a Great Good Offer, or some offer with a game that I like, also there is another great place to buy games at good price: The Steam Store, sadly this one don't accept Bitcoin, yet...
So I'm wondering if I should try to sell the Bitcoins for dollars, that's why I opened this post.
I took a look at BTC-E, however it seems that is not possible to sell such small amount, or very difficult at least... I don't know exactly how works the order system there. At Coin-Swap there is a feature called Auto-Buy/Sell orders, these are orders that have their own balance, so for example if someone is asking for 100 LAT and you sell 5 LAT to him (by placing a sell order at the same price per LAT) the 5 Latium will be deducted from your account and the buy order, and you will receive the correspondent BTC. So the order will be asking now 95LAT. Is that feature available on BTC-E?
If that's the case I can try some workaround to get my money on PayPal, by withdrawing the dollars to OKPay first (the minimum withdrawal is just $1) and then going to Magnetic-Exchange which seems legit and exchange it for PayPal.
Another option is to sell them directly here to someone trustful.
Alternatively I can just wait for that Great Offer a little more, also the CEO of BitStamp in some kind of Bitcoin conference he said on an interview that Bitcoin value will rise up to $2,000, so maybe it's worth to wait for it.
What do you recommend me? Wait some more time, sell them through BTC-E (if possible) sell or them here.
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How I got conned out of $2400(all the money I had in the world – save 0.25 BTC)

How I got conned out of $2400(all the money I had in the world -– save 0.25 BTC)
After spending about a month thoroughly investigating Bitcoin -- watching the markets, reading up on the technical details, its history and potential, getting to grips with security etc(I set up 3 backups stored in different locations and an offline wallet on a fresh Debian install – all encrypted with ultra-long passwords) – I was ready and raring to invest.
I tentatively bought into my first 0.25 BTC at £235/BTC on ‘localbitcoins.com’, somewhat unsure as to whether the price was going to drop back down -- seeing as it had been at £80/BTC only a few weeks earlier -- only to see the price double over the next few days. I was going to buy now and hold, I was going to go all in, all I had to do was get verified with ‘OKPay’ and/or an exchange so I could get as many Bitcoins as possible with the money I had available to invest.
After 5 days wherein I had watched the price of Bitcoin soar again, now to £500, I was getting impatient waiting for verification, worried that the price was going to continue to surge and I was going to miss the (better) boat (I’m expecting we won’t be in danger of totally running out of metaphorical investment boats until we reach the region of $10,000+/BTC).
Outside of the exchanges and ‘OKPay’-ment, the Bitcoins available to me were in the region of 150% on the market price, so I was very receptive at this point to market-price offers from lone traders. Enter ‘Marcus SyajcMaa’. ‘Marcus’ came into my sights on the ‘Bitcoins’ open Facebook group -- when he responded to another individual who was inquiring about purchasing Bitcoins -- saying that he was looking to sell on 36BTC at $400/BTC(£250; market price: ~£310) “before the (anticipated) drop”. This was a vastly better deal than anything I had access to at the time (being unverified elsewhere), and I wasn’t too concerned about any potential drop as I had missed out on good deals before whilst waiting for the price to come back down, only for it to escalate further; besides, I wasn’t a day-trader, I was looking to hold for the long-term.
‘Marcus’ had invited prospective buyers to add him as a friend, and so I did.
Once on his friends list, I started up a conversation: Conversation Part 1) http://s5.postimg.org/fembnmq6v/Conversation_1.jpg Conversation Part 2) http://s5.postimg.org/qtiss92jb/Conversation_2.jpg
The group he added me to was ran by him, and it was populated with 109 accounts. Some of these accounts exchanged banter with ‘Marcus’ whilst others talked positively of past deals they’d done with him. Hindsight: Some others of these 109 accounts appear to have been genuine – people like me whom ‘Marcus’ was in the process of working. Others were most certainly either puppet accounts or accomplices. They weren’t obvious though… Like ‘Marcus’, they all spoke good English, had well-populated friends lists(including several mutual friends) as well as convincing personal details, timelines and public photo galleries. I took ‘Marcus’ up on his offer to go public with the trade.
At this point I realised ‘Marcus’ might have been wanting to sell his 36 BTC as one lot: Conversation Part 3) http://s5.postimg.org/7jbs8tgk7/Conversation_3.jpg
This is when things start going down hill for me. I became embarrassed that this guy thought I was looking to buy 36 BTC when all the money I had in the world would only be enough to buy 5 BTC(and I obviously wanted to keep some of that back, you know, to live on..). This put me into a psychological position of being somehow below ‘Marcus’ in standing, which reduced my ability to negotiate strongly with him. I was interested in taking advantage of the special offer for purchasing 5 BTC, but perhaps more drivingly I didn’t want to make it obvious that I was so poor relative to his expectations.
Conversation Part 4) http://s5.postimg.org/n631m6uc7/Conversation_4.jpg
My negotiatory position was now further weakened as I found I was ‘competing’ with others for the purchase – he was in control, it didn’t matter to him if I purchased or not as he could just sell to someone else; I on the other hand had no comparable alternatives at that time(of course, in hindsight I should’ve just waited for verification). Hindsight: This was all an intentional part of the set-up, putting me in a weak bargaining position so that he could manipulate me as he wanted, a classic technique. Again to conceal my poverty, whilst I only reserved 4 BTC, I suggested I could possibly buy 5 - 10BTC(smh).
Conversation Part 5) http://s5.postimg.org/ujifl5edz/Conversation_5.jpg Conversation Part 6) http://s5.postimg.org/wtfqne23b/Conversation_6.jpg Conversation Part 7) http://s5.postimg.org/e3ekf5ul3/Conversation_7.jpg
He starts to increase the pressure on me to complete the deal, saying that he has other buyers waiting and he wants to cancel the invoice. This further weakens my already shaky position.
Conversation Part 8) http://s5.postimg.org/ph13qd53Conversation_8.jpg Conversation Part 9) http://s5.postimg.org/sce6x893Conversation_9.jpg Conversation Part 10) http://s5.postimg.org/fmejxvqjb/Conversation_10.jpg Conversation Part 11) http://s5.postimg.org/93qayp3pz/Conversation_11.jpg
I was trying to be hard and negotiate with him, but I felt at the same time that if I tried to negotiate without showing at the same time that I was progressing the deal I would lose it. This guy ran his own Bitcoin Facebook group with 109 members, he dealt in stacks of 36 BTC at a time. I was already taxing his valuable time by buying 5 BTC when he wanted to sell 36, I didn’t want it to get out that I wasted this guy’s time completely, no one would deal with me again!
Conversation Part 12) http://s5.postimg.org/dx5gptatz/Conversation_12.jpg
“or”… This was not a question before: I was going to get his I.D., I was going to use an escrow, and I was going to get him to take a verification picture with a message written on paper to prove the I.D was his before I would close ANY deal. Now, not only could I not make a straight up demand: I couldn’t even ask a firm question like, “Can you send me your I.D. BEFORE I send you my fucking life savings on the word of someone I know nothing about,” without adding “or” to the end of it to show that I hade no commitment whatsoever to ensuring my wish was fulfilled. That’s psychological manipulation for you.
Conversation Part 13) http://s5.postimg.org/gfr5qhwk7/Conversation_13.jpg
Again, he shows that he is in control, that he doesn’t need me, that I should be grateful that he is even dealing with me at all: that I have no bargaining power whatsoever. So, I cave and hit ‘close dispute’. I get an error, which in hindsight could’ve been a blessing in disguise had I not been so persistent…
“He seems desperate to refund me. Surely a scammer wouldn’t want to refund me my money!? Clearly he is a legitimate businessman who just wants to make the most money he can out of his hard-earned capital! He is doing me a favour by staying in the deal so long when he could’ve gone elsewhere. I don’t need to push my luck and waste any more of his time getting any pesky I.D., I am just being a nuisance, and everyone is going to find out. People, including ‘Marcus’, do this every day -- this is how Bitcoin trades work, everyone knows that! I can trust him.” Hindsight: this is further part of the con strategy: allow me to spend several hours working towards closing a deal calmly and carefully taking no risks, then start to pull it away from me so I lose my cool head and jump after it like a lemming.
Conversation Part 14) http://s5.postimg.org/42ebjl6vConversation_14.jpg
It worked, I was able to close the dispute… “HOORAY,” I thought...
Conversation Part 15) http://s5.postimg.org/do7vzvy1j/Conversation_15.jpg
As soon as I hit send on that last message his account and the group disappeared. I realised immediately that I had been conned: it was like the fog of deception suddenly lifted and everything was all so obvious -- I had been under the warlock’s spell. I found out later after posting in the ‘Bitcoins’ group about my experience that he had only blocked and banned me, and he had even tried to continue conning other people after he'd finished with me. After members of the ‘Bitcoins’ group had sufficiently spread word of his con, he did finally delete his account, but the group only became secret, meaning he is planning to use it again on other unsuspecting victims.
Here are links to screenshots of the invoice and transaction, as well as to some testimonies from other ‘Bitcoins’ group members who had encountered ‘Marcus’:
“What? He seemed on the level,” said one member.
Invoice: http://s5.postimg.org/82lgvtxcn/Invoice.jpg Transaction: http://s5.postimg.org/t4q1nws2f/Payment_Sent.jpg
Testimonies: http://s5.postimg.org/lksd849hz/K_S_Almost_fellow_scammee.jpg http://s5.postimg.org/hlmfh6n13/K_Y_Almost_Fellow_scammee.jpg http://s5.postimg.org/3xf5nnoyf/S_C_First_Alerter_unheard.jpg http://s5.postimg.org/o7ch2sq3b/T_J_Almost_fellow_scammee.jpg http://s5.postimg.org/5wr61btw7/D_J_attesting_to_scammer.jpg
So, it turned out the word was already out that he was a scammer, it just wasn’t sufficiently publicised. I would suggest that anyone running any Bitcoin forum or group who wants to help prevent people from being conned, makes a sticky thread or post with an URGENT – READ FIRST label containing details of known scams and scammers, and standard guidelines for transactions, so that newbies don’t go along with insecure 1-1 transactions (without escrow etc..) thinking that’s acceptable or the norm. It’s too easy for a skilful con artist to convince a newbie, with the help of bots, that he and is methods of transaction are legitimate and widely-accepted, respectively.
I had heard about the risks of selling BTC to people who are using PayPal or bank transfer, due to the risk of them withdrawing the funds after the BTC had been sent; I’d read up all about how to secure Bitcoins from hackers; and I was sufficiently well-read to be confident in the long-term viability of bitcoin, but I never once read anything about how to avoid scammers ‘selling’ bitcoin. So, having only read from the perspective of holders of Bitcoin(which makes sense, as the people who are going to be writing Bitcoin guides are most likely to be heavily invested), I was completely unprepared for being scammed in the reverse direction.
Conclusion/TL; DR:
Stay safe, beware of cons: 20 people vouching for a guy isn’t enough any more when people can bot perfectly convincing fake accounts and scam-pool with accomplices; be aware of fake escrow sites to come with bots vouching on review sites. I just hope some newbie Bitcoiners will see this post(as I saw and was motivated by the posts of people being hacked) and be more careful/prepared to encounter con-artists than I was. NEVER BUY BITCOINS WITHOUT ESCROW OR EQUIVALENT PROTECTION.
If there are any hackers out there who think they can track the guy down somehow with the information I’ve provided, though I expect this is unlikely, I give you my fullest blessing.
May your interactions be voluntary and your Bitcoins secure,
Miles(internet pseudonym).
Clarification: I don't have screenshots from the group because it was made secret as soon as I found out it was a con; and I can't charge-back PayPal because he got me to open up a dispute and then close it -- which seemed reasonable to me seeing as it makes it effectively the same as using OKpay etc, with which one cannot charge-back in the first place: charge-backs being the whole reason most BTC sellers don't accept PayPal...
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Please help a newb withdraw money from BTC-E.

Heyheyhey! Im hoping someone on here can give me some guidance on how to withdraw my money from BTC-E. I sold some bitcoin a few months ago and want to transfer the money into my bank account. Im not very tech savvy, so I cant seem to figure out how to accomplish this.
In advance, thanks for your help reddit:)
Edit: I have clicked the withdraw button and looked through the list of sources to send my money too, but its all a bit confusing. I have less than $100 so I only have a few options, which are, BTC-e Code, QIWI, and OKpay. Not sure which one to choose, or even how they work. So any help would be much appreciated.
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